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Writeup: Confidential Intelligence Actions: Covert Intelligence Data Collection

 

CS-G

2 Dec 691

To The Guardian WW

CONFIDENTIAL

INTELLIGENCE ACTIONS
COVERT INTELLIGENCE
DATA COLLECTION

A Case Officer runs agents who essentially are not known to the executive who is naming the Case Officer.

The Executive makes known to the Case Officer what he wants or can use. This is sometimes developed from data already collected and given to the Executive by the Case Officer.

The Case Officer is also known as an “Operator” or an Intelligence Officer. It is up to him to find agents and come to agreement with them. He himself knows and pays them.

The agent is told what is wanted, gets it or finds how it can be gotten or doesn’t exist. He is paid for what he gets or documents or data.

The Case Officer may “run” several agents.

There is always a chance that not all the money gets to the agents and always a chance the data may be planted by the agent or the document forged. These are the chances one takes and prevents them as he can.

Tips, connections and documents are the stuff in trade in Covert Intelligence data collection. One limits his demands on the case officer to these.

In using such data or documents as are furnished, there is a danger of exposing the source of them or the agent so one usually falsifies the source and takes other measures to obscure both that one is dealing with Intelligence and that the agent or case officer had any connection with it. If one is not careful to do this, one exposes the agent. When no care is taken on this point (falsifying how one came across it or possesses it when using it) agents – and the case officer – become afraid to give you data and you dry up the source. As in the case of the Swiss Account numbers the paper “exposed” they blew the cover of an agent. It was as easy to say, “According to directors of the bank, to whom Balniel is related,…” or “Examining their payments for materials their Swiss numbers are…” As it was you knew there was an agent near treasury at SH. Also they were not number accounts. They were name-number accounts and not masked. So the enthusiasm to spread entheta makes their release of data appear to be an intelligence action. They knew it was so they made it look like it. And blew the cover of their agent. Further they have so many of our HCOBs, etc. it is obvious they have infiltrated by the sheer volume of it. Further they took the warning letters and Verwoerd replies on the assassination I warned Verwoerd about out of my top floor file cabinet at SH and took it in its entirety so I have been aware of SH infiltration for some time. They didn’t take, copy by camera or photostat and return. In this case, however, the letters compromised Vorster! So of course they wanted no one to have them. But this told me we faced intelligence actions of a basic kind. So too such can be taken outright mid not replaced.

One has to specify to a Case Officer what one wants or listen to what he can get, let him get on with it and reassure him that its use will be masked and caution him against letting an agent unmask the operation.

This is essentially covert data collection.

COVERT OPERATIONS

A covert operation can be arranged by a Case Officer, using agents but is normally on another set of lines so as to expose nothing of covert data collection by engaging on a covert operation.

Essentially a covert operation is intended to embarrass, discredit or overthrow or remove an actual or possible opponent.

It is a small war carried on without its true source being disclosed.

Generally the operation is preceded by data collection to establish the target validity and to plan the operation.

It follows all the rules of war but uses propaganda psychological effect surprise shock, etc., to achieve its ends.

It is normal to establish the objective of the covert operation very clearly, whether large or small, long term or short term.

There is the war, (the overall conflict) the battle (a short term but massive part of the war) and the skirmish (a minor action just to keep the pressure on and keep the enemy sounded out and off balance).

The takeover of the Nats by enrollment was a major battle, for instance. It could alter the course of the war.

The enemy propaganda tactic is to print bad things, repeat them in another country, repeat them back, get them into articles and then into books. This builds a background of ill repute. This builds a “library of public opinion.” This has happened to us.

The enemy objective is to discredit, in our case, and then build on this a denial of rights under law. Their first bad articles were the New York Times Sunday magazine section in mid 1950. Their first blast was the San Francisco papers, Sept 1950, quoting the publisher Ceppos being critical of me (he ws a Communist, publisher of Book One) followed by the LA papers, pushed then by the Sara Komkovadamanov (alias Northrup) “divorce” actions, followed by attempted kidnapping of myself. Other details were pushed into it including murder of four and so on. This was a full complete covert operation. At the back of it was Miles Hollister (psychology student) Sara Komkovadamanov (housekeeper at the place nuclear physicists stayed near Caltech) Gene Benton and his wife – secretary of the Young Communists League. The FBI approached in December 1950 and asked what Communists were in our orgs, said they could not give it out but asked for a list of all staff saying they would give us back those who were not. 252 out of 1000 were struck off the list by the FBI.

That was a full war against Dianetics. It revived in 1951 and 1952 using the late Don Purcell, a millionaire oil man in Kansas who received $500,000 into his bank account the day after he threw the Wichita Foundations into bankruptcy.

Only minor skirmishes were fought until ’58 and since then the war has hotted up.

Only when we began to view this as a covert operation did we begin to take any tricks in the game.

Throughout, the amount of violence has been dwindling since 1950 std the police no longer cooperate well with the enemy.

Their target seems to be to discredit and to deny terrain (as in ban laws and immigration actions). To this they must have added financial embarrassment early and have hotted this up.

They strike through Health Depts, Immigration Services and Tax Agencies and overall via certain controller press chains. These are the channels on which they fight. Their controller press keeps barking always (like the Daily Mail until King and Carr got chopped off) and now the Sunday Times in the UK. Time-Life used to until Luce fell.

Carry the ball, that is, month in month out. Then innocent papers would begin to echo it during high peaks.

So their control channels are very visible and an analysis of these takes us to Nat groups and up to WFMH and to people who control the constantly used channels.

This whole thing is the pattern of a covert operation conducted by skilled intelligence officers. Every pattern of think they have is Totalitarian Communistic. Marx, Lenin, dialectic materialism, Pavlov. My recent careful analysis of their reaction patterns label them conclusively as a Communist Intelligence group. Their personal character which you meet is that attributed to Communist agents – arrogant beyond belief but singularly lacking initiative and going to pieces when trying to operate without direct orders.

To fight a covert operation or to do one needs channels, contacts, direct planned campaigns with known objectives. One can also fight a covert operation by exposure of it and its principles for which one needs documents.

Covert operations are weak in that they fade out on exposure. Thus a covert operation has to lead to an overt operation to succeed. One sees this in guerilla actions. They begin with propaganda, get stronger by covert political persons found “in place” or planted in the government (as psychologists and psychiatrists now are) and then move into terrorism, bombings, etc., mid then into active guerrilla warfare and then into formal war.

Exposure, authenticated by documents, can halt this process. The demonstration of falsity of utterance can discredit the agents planting data.

Few guerilla actions succeed like China.

But all these stages of a takeover at national level begin with a covert operation.

Having been well fought, our enemy progresses slowly and now he is being discredited. We are a sideshow to national insurrection planned way up in the future.

We regard the Walter takeover and plans in the US severely because it is a money motivated (for sale) group. They’re also for sale to the enemy. This does not mean they are. They are only potentially a grab or side stab.

Purcell managed to seize the whole Dianetics empire and run it for a while. He was a monied man, money-motivated but Castro was the richest man in Cuba! G. Washington the richest in the US. Lafayette the richest in France. So there’s nothing strange about Cecil King being a director of the Bank of England and the Nats.

The Pubs Org crash, the fabulous list (Dunhill) price, etc., last year I have always suspected as a direct attack coordinated with the Immigration ban on our finances.

Now we find vital reports by Fred Payer Asho re Dianetics interruption of Scn services was shelved (put in a drawer) by one of AO Int Judy Ziff, Ira Chaleff and Lucy Malzareck.

But this showed (1968) an Internal-External coordination of attack.

SECURITY

The actions to forestall infiltration, covert operations and enemy covert data collection are all actually known as “Security”.

As mentioned above, ours is poor. 252 out of 1000! In 1950. The Verwoerd letter disappearance. Financial planning to crash us. Enemy data possession. Harmful internal acts. 65% of WW income from Franchise. 35% from orgs. All this adds up to infiltration at higher levels in our orgs.

Thus the Ethics Program No. 1 followed by further checking on those who flunk and better use of our meter and testing on personnel will blow or expose infiltration. We have the tech for Security but we’re not using it. We don’t have Clearance Ratings for Execs or staff members but should have.

The press, the 1968 attacks, had the E-Meter as much of a target as the infiltrated FDA did. They fear it. So quietly use it.

Looking up, using safes and locked files are an elementary omission of ours.

Security unfortunately sows internal distrust. But only if not well done. If well done there is a rise in morale. I will get out a security clearance program as Ethics No. 2.

In a Franchise or FSM circuit you can’t keep Security in. So you have to limit what they receive or what they broadly know.

OVERT DATA COLLECTION

We should have a general data collection unit totally separate from Case Officer functions. Excerpting from materials issued to enemy groups or their members or to the press and general press or on TV all offer info sources known as Overt Data Collection.

It is valuable to an Executive as it sometimes tells him what to ask the Case Officer for. It shows trends.

But press is only press and full of false data. It shows the Party Line however.

DATA HANDLING

Whether overtly or covertly attained data is

(a) Collected
(b) Digested
(c) Used.

Use is for planning or exposure or for finding where to get more data.

Over collection is a vice many Intelligence Services have. The Germans and CIA were or are mad on Overt Data collection. This can bog a service down.

Data which cannot be fitted to a Program or project or used is chaff.

Massive data collection always indicates a service in mystery and without concrete purposes. Many heads and many policy changes causes CIA to have acres of electronic computers and spend billions. There is no overriding purpose, no solid planning or programming and so one has a service dedicated to expensive general defense. They have no hope of winning and no plans to do so. They only currently defend the current fancied mine thrtmt and neglect the overall war. They are in continual skirmish and the only battles are launched by the enemy.

Data must be asked the question “Does this forward or guide our actions?” “Is it of use?” “Does it lead us to new conclusions?”

The Scientific method as given in an appendix of an original edition of Book One applies to planning defense and offense actions. One gets facts, formulates a theory to fit them all, applies the theory and gets more facts, re-states the theory to fit the new facts, etc.

THE WAR

Our war has been forced to become “To take over absolutely the field of mental healing on this planet in all forms.”

That was not the original purpose. The original purpose was to clear Earth. The battles suffered developed the data that we had an enemy who would have to be gotten out of the way and this meant we were at war. We a year ago identified the enemy or at least his central group. Since then we fight battles first on our own ground, now on his.

Our tactics of offense and defense are based on data.

We need data to predict his offensives and counter them and data to use in our attacks an him.

We remove his agents and vanquish his troops and we directly attack his central group. That’s sound tactics.

By demonstrating his falsity about us we rehab our own repute (a long road back).  By showing his sources to be false we get them expended.

By showing him to be brutal, venal, and plotting we get him discarded.

Our direct assault will come when they start to arrest his principals end troops for crimes (already begun).

Our total victory will come when we run his organizations, perform his functions and obtain his financing and appropriations.

We are armed with our own integrity.

He is crippled by his subversiveness and crimes.

We are weakened by the political paralysis and infiltration of Western Security forces. They are not effective. Their agents can be “turned’ and they are even used to further subversion at high political levels, obvious from their lack of results.

Four Countries were totally run by enemy agents in 1939, agents of Adolf Hitler. When he struck, creating an atmosphere of confusion, these high “in place” agents took over. Austria, Czechoslovakia, Poland and France had Nazi agents at the top. Russia’s intelligence is patterned on the Gorman service. A similar situation must exist today in the West or the Security Forces would be active instead of hiring as advisors and for their personnel placement psychologists and psychiatrists who meet annually with Russian delegates and belong to KGB connected professional institutions.

So this war is relatively unassisted.

However, as Sweden does, a small group using good intelligence tactics, with good technology if well organized can hold back enemies of great size.

(1) Good Intelligence tactics (we have that).

(2) Good technology (we have that):

(3) Well organized (we are but could be better).

That makes our victory possible.

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Written for the Guardian and her offices.

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  1. Document studied on Confidential GO Intelligence Course. PDF format.  (Clearer copy: PDF format.) ↩

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HCO Info Ltr: Ron’s Journal No. 3 Political Treatment

HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex
HCO INFORMATION LETTER OF 4 APRIL 19691; 2

Remimeo
BPI

TO: All Orgs

FROM: RON

SUBJECT: RON’S JOURNAL 1969 NO.3 POLITICAL TREATMENT

I’ve been studying the state of psychiatry and there can now be no doubt whatever that their “treatment” is political treatment and should be called such.

Electric shocks if not given show patients would leave 6 weeks earlier.

Brain “operations” result in total loss of body coordination and a bright normal being is turned into a drooling blob of flesh, unable even to retain urine. They live only briefly when they do not die at once on the operating table.

The only precedent for such “operations” is Hitler’s action in doing it much more lightly to 800,000 persons to make “farm slavery” or zombies.

The political color command and control of parliaments and legislatures by psychiatry are evident in the easy seizure without trial laws being passed or in the hypocritical actions like Ronald Reagan’s new bill in California that was hailed in the press as giving “rights” to patients in asylums (comparable to Geneva’s Prisoner of War Code) to refuse such treatment but the actual bill says in small print that the “doctor” can refuse any of these rights at his sole discretion. This equals a sentence to death without trial or even a crime.

In Dianetics insanity is shown to be common physical illnesses, yet asylums have no medical facilities. Dianetics can handle insanity with relative ease once the physical injuries and illnesses of the patient are cured medically or when the patient is only lightly ill. A new breakthrough on this is now being taught real MDs in England by a team I trained.

So there is an easy cure of insanity in ordinary medical treatment of broken, badly healed bones, bad kidneys, etc., plus easy Dianetic auditing.

Dianetics has been available and proven for 20 years. Yet psychiatric front groups have been able to command sufficient political action to prevent its use, instead getting bills passed to easily seize anyone, torture and kill him.

Thus the Western countries are seen to refuse actual treatment and legalize inhuman torture and brutality.

Psychiatric treatment is actually psychiatric political treatment, nothing more, to rid the world of anyone who might disagree.

Nelson Rockefeller’s “youth stockades” are for youths who might become delinquent, it says right there in the founding papers.

In Arizona federal judges sentence delinquents to electric shock or death for “being turbulative.”

Insanity is now defined as anyone who disagrees with the social autonomy.

The handwriting is plain. Only the government supports psychiatry. The public by survey stays thoroughly away from them. Death camps like the one just found in Cardiff are situated strategically over the West. Hitler at least wasn’t pretending to help anyone. He just wanted them dead.

So psychiatric activities consist of political treatment. That is very certain now.

This was the deadly secret we in Scientology might have found out and which made them terrified of us, ridicule us, fight us and spend over 2 million dollars to try unsuccessfully to get rid of us.

Over the world they were running death camps.

A few times they missed and certain political actions came to light — Ezra Pound the poet, Governor Long of Louisiana, General Walker of Little Rock, managed to become known about before they were depersonalized. So be mystified no longer. We weren’t up against any mental treatment — only violent brutality properly known as political treatment.

So that’s what we ought to brand it.

These dumb birds were trying to form a total police state, but the police hate them and the army deserts at every chance. How do you form a police state with the police and army on the side of the population?

That’s not their only mistake. Their biggest one was attacking us.

The commies would have won in the end.

Revolt is not far off if political treatment is allowed to continue.

Some of the “very best people” are involved.

If we can expose and eradicate this bestial tendency in Western government before it is too late, the society will not fall into the chaos desired for a communist takeover. It’s our one chance. Expose them fully and fast.

If we delay, the mobs will tear these government leaders limb from limb for other causes than political  treatments.

If exponents of death camps can be gotten out, Western governments may yet survive.

Remember that Pavlov 1870 and Wundt 1879 invented these technologies and every nation that used their work-Russia, Austria, Germany, Poland, has ceased to exist, their leaders brutally slain and the governments replaced by maniacs. So it is no idle prediction that the West, using now Wundt and Pavlov, are very close in their turn to going down in flames.

Man just doesn’t like being called an animal or treated like one. He revolts.

As he did in Russia, Poland, Germany, Austria, and got real beasts in charge instead.

The “best people” in the West who support psychiatry and look to it to seize their mob leaders and “clean up dissident elements” had better try to remember their history since 1789.

A lot of “best people” then and since have been made awfully dead at the hands of mobs.

This is not the Middle Ages. It is the twentieth century. Human rights not death camps are the fashion today.

L. RON HUBBARD
Founder

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LRH ED: Western Countries

EXECUTIVE DIRECTIVE FROM L. RON HUBBARD

Date 20 December 19681

LRH ED 69 INT

WESTERN COUNTRIES

One has to ask a question seriously concerning the American – European – Anzo world – normally called “the West”.

Are they capable of surviving?

The business of police is public safety, which in any terminology means the personal safety of the person and the goods of the individual or group.

In any governed society the government takes responsibility for personal security.

If the government itself aids and abets the actions of criminals, condones or legalizes raids upon possessions and attacks on the person, then it is no longer a government but a hostile enemy of the people.

When a government collects taxes it is supposed to give service. When it collects taxes and turns any part of them over to those who attack the people to assist the attack on them and provides no protection in return then it has ceased to be a government and is a kind of curse, like a locust swarm or a plague.

If protection was proportionate to taxes and was actually furnished, even then there would be no real complaint even if the taxes were high.

The definition, by Classic International Law, determinjng a Sovereign Power is “the ability to protect the lands and People of the country from foreign aggression.” If the government cannot or does not do this it is then, in International Courts, no longer defined as the Sovereign Power of the state.

Modern governments realize they cannot defend their land against atomic bombs (as there is no defense) and since 1950 when Russia stole the formula of fission have degenerated into the shadow of the real government.

Western governments and peoples are under ceaseless and unrelenting attack from the Communist forces in the “cold war”. The enemy has for a long time been inside, getting laws passed, degrading the society, seizing persons in the name of “psychiatry”, pushing up taxes, inflating money —

Well it’s pretty obvious what the enemy is doing.

But if this is so — and we know now it is — then where are the Western governments? Where are their 007s and Steeds of “Avenger fame.” Where, even, are their pavement pounders.

SH suffers a small crime on the average of once a month – theft or breaking in. Out of this long list, not one crime has ever been solved by the police to whom each was reported. SH on the other hand has solved several of these on its own. Interesting statistic isn’t it?

Over the years we have had a lot of crimes against us in orgs in various countries – petty theft, etc. And even staff members injured and killed in LA and DC years ago. And where were the police?

The enemy in ’63 dressed up Baltimore longshoremen (the enemy recruits in labour unions for members) gave them guns and badges and they raided our DC HQ and seized everything they could grab. These were called “Federal Marshals” in the press.

We have had a lot of action by police and governments against us WITH NO EVIDENCE OF CRIMES BUT LOTS OF EVIDENCE OF DOING GOOD but we have not had ANY protection of any kind.

The orders the governments followed in attacking us were originated by REDS, by the usually foreign psychiatrist, operating as per Communist instructions to destroy all Churches and Scientology in particular.

The governments took THEIR orders. We were citizens of the country, with honourable decent records and intentions. So where were the governments? Where were the police?
We in desperation, conceiving that the society appeared lawless, developed our own codes of justice and our own ethics officers.

SINCE THAT TIME WE HAVE MADE HEADWAY.

Not only that, we have also found the enemy and have him badly rattled.

So, the point is, if this handful of us could accomplish all that and stay alive and grow as well, and if the governments concerned could not handle it and were themselves being mowed down and turned against their own people, we come to two conclusions

A. We are largely on our own.

B. On our own we can make steady progress. This then leads to the conclusions that

1. We must be an awfully effective group

2. And, wildly enough, we are better than the continued governments of the West in defense from Red attacks.

All right, those are fantastic conclusions. But they add up to that by all processes of reasoning. This is no bid to revolution. It’s just a summary of bald
facts.

We, the dark horse, came up from the dusty rear of the field and got about 100 furlongs ahead.

So who are these other guys? The police and the governments? They were obviously the losers in this cold  war. They couldn’t win on the battlefield or in the conference chamber and they not only let the side down, they helped the enemy.

Either the police were tied down by the corruption in politics or they didn’t care.

I think we ought to give policemen a piece of our mind.

What are they doing letting their citizens be chopped up?

The job we’re doing is their job. They get paid for it.

Sooner or later one of two things happen in a state:

(a) The people and government get tired and the whole thing folds up, or

(b) The people start siding with the winner against the government.

We didn’t set out to be a political force. We don’t care to be one.

BUT WE ARE BEING FORCED INTO TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE WEST.

Wow.

Assistant Guardians here and there at the peak of the late 1968 enemy offensive, were getting calls from unions and public groups TO ASK FOR HELP OR DIRECTION in handling the local government on matters of their own, not ours.

And that’s the beginning of a government.

The people are on our side in these weak states.

Now in a governed area that is newly or strongly governed we are being included and welcomed by the new government.

We didn’t promote any of this, really.

The people of Western nations would rather die than become puppets in a Communist State. They do not have much faith in their losing governments.

As we were an unsuspecting object of attack by the enemy we had to measure up to it or die as a group.

We measured up to it. We did not die. We expanded. So now what happens? We are caught up in world forces.

The West is losing steadily as governments.

We refuse to be a revolutionary force. We will continue to try to cooperate with the West.

But it looks to me that this is what will be forced into existence:

As we totally dominate the technology of the mind, as we are winning where the West was losing, as Western governments turned on us and were thereby shown to be weak or corrupt,
the public as the years roll on will force us into a position of control of order whether we like it or not.

That’s the way the tide is swinging.

We have a lot of hard battles ahead, I am sure. We will have to be careful not to be classed as a revolutionary force. We will have to keep our truth and integrity in the face of
all opposition and carry on and continue to win.

And just by doing what we are doing, I predict that the West will survive and that Communism will succumb. And that we will make our target of a cleared 4th Dynamic.

If we really keep on working hard at our jobs.

L. RON HUBBARD
Founder

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LRH ED: The War

LRH ED 55 INT
29 November 19681; 2

THE WAR

You may not realize it staff member but there is only one small group that has hammered Dianetics and Scientology for 18 years.

The press attacks, the public upsets you receive and all those you have received for all your time in Scientology were generated by this one group.

For eighteen years it has poured lies and slander into the press and government agencies.

Last year we isolated a dozen men at the top. This year we found the organization these used and all its connections over the world.

They are as red as paint. Their former president was a card carrying Communist and they have four on their Board of Directors. Yet they reach into International Finance,
Health Ministries, Schools, the press. They even control immigration in many lands.

Psychiatry and “Mental Health” was chosen as a vehicle to undermine and destroy the West! And we stood in their way.

They knew we had the answers. We were over $2,000,000 dangerous to them. That’s about what they’ve spent to try to get rid of us.

Well, today, the World Federation of Mental Health (which pretends to be part of the United Nations and isn’t) and their “National” Mental Health organizations (which pretend
to be part of each national government and aren’t) in every western nation have been spotted by us and proven to be the ones responsible.

If a platoon of Russian soldiers landed in your country and started shooting down people, the military or the citizens would wipe them out.

But if several regiments landed in small groups, with phoney passports, dressed in dark business suits, each one vouched for as a professional doctor by the “best people”, they could (and do) select out anyone they wish to kill, get him behind closed doors in an institution and depersonalize or kill him.

They have infiltrated boards of education, the armed services, even the churches.

They hold the wives or daughters of a great many politicians and keep them “under treatment”.

They appoint Ministers of Health by pretending they are already part of the government.

They collect millions.

Their “technology” is the same as that used by Intelligence Services. Electric shock. Brain operations. These were used in Lubenka Prison in Russia but are not allowed on Russians!

Anyway, this was the live wire we got across by being able to undo their effect on the West.

None of this is fiction. There are too many dead men around for that.

We have the goods on them and right this minute more artillery is being rolled up by us from more quarters than they could ever predict.

We’ve made a beachhead. We are slamming in closer.

You aren’t standing alone. There is more ammunition being flung at them right this minute than they could ever duck.

They made a few gains. They could even make one or two more.

But they made a bad mistake. They attacked us. And we weren’t even in the same line of country.

For eighteen years we have had constant sniping at us over the world. They did it.

We’ve got to fight this one on through and we will.

Think of what it would be like to have no such opposition!!!! My, how we would expand. And will.

You just carry on your job well, do it very well. Keep the show on the road. Get the stats up.

A lot of good guys amongst us are taking care of them. We are using only legal means over the world. We don’t stoop to murder and rough house. But man, the effectiveness of
our means will become history.  It is a tough war. All wars are tough. It isn’t over.

But if the enemy knew all that was heading in his direction this minute from how many quarters he’d faint.

Let him lah-de-dah with the socialites and “best people” a little longer. Let him pose as part of the government yet; little while. And then he’s had it.

Our error was in failing to take over total control of all mental healing in the West. Well, we’ll do that too.

You never did understand his treatments?  Well so the psychiatrist acts like a Russian storm trooper after all.

L. RON HUBBARD
Founder

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Transcript: LRH Conference with the investigators

LRH CONFERENCE WITH THE INVESTIGATORS

17th August, 19661

This is 17th of August, and I will just make a record here for you own private information, 1966, and I suppose there are some questions you would like to ask me on this and that.

Before you do, I would just like to give a rundown on the situation.

I myself am not unfamiliar with your line of country. I myself was a D-3 office[r] of Naval Intelligence with the US Navy as Intelligence Officer in the Asiatic fleet at the beginning of the World War II, served previously around Washington and New York.

In the spring of 1942, they however found they had great scarcity of Master Mariners and so on and the FBI took over the complete entirety of Naval Intelligence at that time and so those of us who were qualified as Deck Officers were transferred over to the line and I went from there. Nevertheless, I was in this line of country for some time — well this doesn’t make me a “bug” on the situation — makes me familiar with it.2

In 1950, I’ll give you some background history on this, I started a Foundation. I didn’t have control of this Foundation; it was started by a number of business men who were in who believed in human betterment, and they began a Foundation called the Hubbard Research Foundation, Elizabeth, N.J.

At that time I wasn’t ever owning up to having done the research. I had written a book and it had become a bestseller, and they had taken over, and the Foundation, to continue the researches. I was actually at that time backing out of the whole thing and I was scheduled to take an expedition. I’ve been a member of the Explorer’s Club for many years, and have commanded several expeditions. I was going down to the [Dandecaues], and there was a ship down there that was full of Greek statuary which had been wrecked in Roman times and they had aerial photographs of it, and I had a job to look at this. And I was just backing out very gorgeously, you see, and they pleaded with me not to go. Things were becoming very busy, popularity of this work exceeded anything they had ever dreamed of.

It was riding the top of the Best Seller list throughout the summer of 1950, it was a sellout all over the place and so I said all right I’d give them a hand until July, and then I would have to go on and do something that was more in my line of country, you see.

By July I found out that people were doing things with this technology which had been released which were not necessarily harmful just terribly off beat, messed up, and I saw that it was all about to go down the river, and the Board at that time begged me to stress the fact that I had done the research, and the work was basically mine, and that I should take some administrative control for this. Well, so I took some administrative control.

Well, if you ever saw a shambles it had begun right at that moment, not because I was in administrative control but just shambles. It was so bad there were about four people killed out in California. There was an effort to kidnap me, which only my somewhat hard won knowledge of Judo and so forth got me out of — I put two blokes in the hospital — very very adventurous.

A woman sued me for divorce to whom I was not married3; she was the mistress of a scientist, an atomic scientist, and he had been my friend, and he had died4. Well anyway, to make a long story short, she haunted me — and it was just too thick — offices were being robbed and, oh my goodness.

By this time there were five of these branch offices to the Foundation — I still had no administrative control over this and the Boards would pass all sorts of resolutions and spend money in all different directions – I had no control over this.

But I did have control over the fact that we were being knocked around badly, so I went down and saw a friend of mine who was an assistant of Hoover’s, J. Edgar Hoover, and he said, “Well, Ron, I can’t do anything for you by telling you anything about your staff, but if you give me a list of all of your staff members of all of these Foundations, I will give you back a list which will startle you, and tell you which ones of them are not members of the Communist Party. I’ll give you back that list”.

That was news to me, what was this? So I gave him that list that included a thousand staff members in these five organizations, and he gave me back a list and it had two hundred fifty-seven names missing off it. Well, he wised me up just to this point, “Communists”, he said, “are under orders to infiltrate all sorts of organizations, and you are just getting more than your share of popularity and if they can bend this activity over to their own uses they would be very excited about it, and so forth.”

Well, I slogged through the remainder of 1951 and eventually…I had no control of these organizations at all and they, through mismanagement and so forth by their existing Boards, they folded up and I went off down to Phoenix, Arizona, and I started a Scientology organization.

The name of the earlier subject was Dianetics, and you will find that is still in useful practice, but it was basically a healing subject. We got in bad with the healing professions because the publisher and a medical doctor, not me, said that any two people could use it and get well instantly, and it was Walter Winchell no less who said it was a greater development than the wheel and arch. That wasn’t me. Now these people staring attributing these statements to me.5

Well, I parted company with this field because I did not want to be mixed up with a healing activity because this was a philosophic line of research and I ran into Scientology and the basic subject from which Dianetics was derived, and I went on with this development down in Phoenix, Arizona, and I got the earliest Scientology Organization put together and I had control of that and it ran pretty well, and it has been prospering ever since.

I came over here to England — there were several groups over here in England that were at swords with each other — and they requested me to come over and make peace amongst them — so I made a branch of the American Office in London and let these groups contribute their activity to it and its gone on from 1952 in England.

Now at the time, had it not been for responsibility to other people and so forth, I would actually very happily have pulled foot from all the administrative actions and so forth in regard to this, because it is a tumultuous field to end all tumultuous fields. You see me right now gazing longingly and casting sheep’s eyes at a yacht I am getting surveyed up at Hull right now and you see me going out to Rhodesia and slogging around and trying to get a connection with some of my own finances and so forth for a change, and it is a tough, tough line. And if it weren’t for my responsibility to other people in this matter, I myself would not have very much to do with it. That is the truth of the matter.

But now that I have taken responsibility along this line, I am very dedicated to certain propositions, and that is, first and foremost, the ethical application of the technology, it must be done right. It must be used properly. It mustn’t be used to hurt or harm people, and so on. Hence you see our Ethics activity.

Now in 1954, I got my first clue — and this is where you start coming in — I got my first clue as to the actual type of personality that gave us a slugging around.

Earlier, in doing research on the mind, and so on, I had become a special officer of the Los Angeles force. For a while I was down there having […] time. My beat was South Main and Alvarado and that is the toughest district there is down there. And I got a little insight into the criminal intelligence, and then I began to find out that I didn’t run across Communists who didn’t have a slightly or largely tainted criminal background. This was the big discovery to me — possibly it is very well known to the police, but the criminal seems to move over into that particular field.

Well, I’m not hepped up on this subject of communism. As a writer, before the War, and so on, I rubbed elbows with communists and socialists and extreme rightists and any other breed — I got along with all of them.

The Communists used to say to me, “Ron, you are on the wrong side of the fence. You should join us now because we are taking over the world,” and so forth, and I said, “You just go along and take over the world and let me get on with what I’m doing.”

There was no emotional [?] with this, and as time has gone on, I have gotten a deeper and deeper insight into the type of personality which raises the devil with this type of work, and it isn’t 90% of the human race, it is a figure as small as 20%. Of that 20%, only 2 ½ % of the 100, the other being 17 ½ %, the 2 ½% are really institutional cases. They are utterly mad.

Now they themselves — for various reasons, they cannot confront their own past. It would be entirely too painful to them. Therefore they cannot conceive of anyone else confronting his past, so they are opposed to anybody who tries to make people do this. And then in addition to this, they are terrified that something will be found out about them, because there is something to find out. And even if there isn’t, they are still afraid that something will be found out.

Now, it is this type of personality.

Now when I found out that they are in the minority I began to investigate whenever we started to take a shellacking. Whenever we started to be beaten around, I would get a private investigator in the area and have a look around and see who was at this and that activity.

Is [it] the suits, no, but that activity of investigation is the only thing which has tamed down attacks on Scientology. Not even a punitive action after the investigation was concluded but just the fact of investigation.

Now what happens — apparently the mechanism of is this — this chap here is of a self-betterment group. He hears that somebody is doing something about the mind. Well, he is ably aided and assisted with the fact that newspapers in all the years I’ve been around have never bothered to interview me — they just go off and write what occurs to them, you see. And when we have a win, or we sue somebody and we win, they never report this. We just get the total opposite picture.

You see it in the Council up here. Every time the Council turns down planning permission, they used to publish, “Doctor Hubbard receives a turn-down vote at Saint Hill,” and whenever they granted one, if it appeared at all, it would be at the bottom of the page in fine type.

The truth of the matter is that we’ve got more planning permission than anybody in the whole district. But this false picture continues to present itself, and if you go back in the newspaper files and clippings, you find this flood of stuff.

Now you take the Australian Enquiry which is giving us trouble right now. That Enquiry proceeded under executives who since have really been shot from guns by us, who would take no order of any kind. They did whatever they pleased, and they were operating apparently under a law code which was invented by a bunch of criminals to begin with.

Now this Australian Enquiry forbade — its got so many legal points — that it forbade me to appear. It said it couldn’t guarantee my personal safety if I appeared and testified there. They refused completely to do this — we are getting a booklet out in which all that evidence is authenticated. Now English law says that if a newspaper publishes something that happened to somebody abroad, it must have been testimony in a fair trial. And of course that was an unfair trial. And it wasn’t a trial really. And so it makes it actionable as it was republished in England. What we are getting out is reprintings of this sort of thing.

We get all sorts of weird things happening like this fellow Filson, he grabbed some papers which are not public issue papers but which are research materials. He sells them to a newspaper. The newspaper comes out and gives all sorts of weird, out of context reporting of this sort of thing. Well now then this kind of thing mounts up and we get an hostile environment as a result thereof.

Now you are running down somebody who apparently is one of this original type personality I was talking about. They are terrified and they push it forward.

What has actually happened in Scientology is that we have a technology which has been developed, which for instance permitted a fighter squadron in the United States to go over a whole year without a single clipped wing tip. They didn’t have an accident of any kind whatsoever.

Well, you can raise people’s IQ, you can half their reaction time, you can identify something about the nature of man which carries more truth or weight with him.

You are not doing anything which is criminal, don’t you see. There is no such action involved, but the fact that you are bettering him terrifies such people. They only approve of activities which kill man. Now this is the background in which we are operating.

Now you in your activities undoubtedly are responsible at this moment for far more damping out than you probably know. For instance, when I got back here, a letter had been written to me from the Ministry of Health in England, saying — I thanked them for turning down the Enquiry — and it was now, “Don’t be too sure that we are not going [to] inquire into Scientology after all,” you see. Not a threatening letter. I got it when I returned a few weeks ago. It had been sitting in my files all that time, waiting for me to see it. But you know, there hasn’t been anything of that, and they didn’t proceed [along] that line.

We had an enthusiasm on the part of The Daily Mail for trying to kick things around. Now writs were issued a week ago against The Daily Mail. They will be followed up by very good evidence and it is a very good suit, and they will undoubtedly settle this thing out of Court, and it will not appear in the press again.

Their man, by the way, Peter Younghusband, that they used to pull off this coup in Rhodesia, I now find out from Tony Hitchman, the Radio Rhodesian television, that isn’t his name. His name is something like Von der Staden or something, and he is a South African, and he operates under an assumed name and he is still kicking around Rhodesia.

Now Truth Magazine, which was about to be under suit by us, but once more our legal was not quick enough off the launching pad. We had an action there, not only against the government, but also against Truth Newspaper being let in from Canberra, not from Melbourne. And apparently they wrote Smith about the Enquiry. And Smith, the fool, wrote them back and said yes he would then have me investigated or words to that effect. And this was the source of Smith’s statement. Truth Newspaper of Melbourne. And a little clipping came through the other day, forwarded through by a student, which gave somewhat the gist of this. I am sure there were other stories, but you had better recover that clipping and show it to them.

Now the whole weight of my activity has very little to do with punishing people, but I think that by the time we run some of this down, and isolate it, some of it, I think that we will find that we are dealing with very few personalities. Now we can be completely certain that the few personalities with whom we are dealing have unsavory pasts. Now that is not not necessarily one which an intelligence officer would be expected to jump the gap of, because that is one which I have found out over the years.

There will be something wrong with the man’s past. Balniel, who advanced that question in Parliament, for instance, has a psychotic wife. Well, we don’t know that that is a bad background, but what’s she doing psychotic? What kind of a home atmosphere is this? What goes on in that vicinity, you see.

Now we ask such questions and there are answers. Now right here, locally on the Council, there are three members — I can’t call them off by name, I did have their names a few months ago — on Town and Country Planning, who are in actual fact complete mad dogs out of a committee of, I don’t know how many men on that committee, but those men are all bright, smiling cheerful. But these three mad dogs are being mad dogs. What makes them so mad dog?

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If a Town and Country Planning were engaged in criminal activity, we would worry them frantic.

There is something going on here in terms of land speculation. It is only in this direction that the town can conceivably expand and it would expand normally in this particular direction. We are sitting on a lot of that land.

But more important than this, I spotted some time ago that as long as a planning permission existed as a rarity on certain pieces of property, that piece of property was up in the stars. But if other planning permissions were granted in that vicinity, then the price of that property deteriorated.

Now the one who runs this council up here, or did a year or two ago, was Lady Dudley Gordon, a very heavy property holder in this immediate vicinity. She considers, I am sure, that I am just pure and simple poison.

Whenever a planning permission is granted, there is always a tendency to reduce the price of property on which permissions are held. For instance, there was an old rag of a house down the road here by the reservoir, that was the awfullest piece of junk you ever looked at. Just a few uprights holding up a ragged roof, and it went for £8000 (eight thousand pounds) because it had a planning permission.

Now there is probably in the various property speculations individuals — people who engage in that type of thing very often do not have clean hands. Now it is the individual, then, whose deeds at the moment I feel you will find a very fruitful line. I just wanted to give you a fast rundown., and outline of how I looked at it, and what the score was with regard to it, and now

[Discussion here re type of crime found in Country Councils.]

And now I want you to tell me anything I can do to help you out in your jobs.

[Concerning the Minister of Health]

Yesterday we saw a Scientologist Pat Webster at London HASI whose brother Tony Webster has been causing some trouble, and this brother is in an executive position in a big import and export corporation in London and Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, and he has got a down on Scientology. I thought it was purely because of the sister.

However, I spoke to him on the telephone last night and told him I was part of a small organization that were wanting to oust Scientology, and wondered if we could meet. He said that he was going back to Malaysia tomorrow on the 2:45 plane from London Airport, and we have got a luncheon appointment with him for 12:30.

He said that he has seen Kenneth Robinson, the Minister of Health, he has been trying to do things against Scientology for ages and he will not stop. This is what he told me on the telephone. His name is WEBSTER. He is married to, his wife is a G.P., I suppose practicing in Malaysia. They have been on leave in this country for the last two months. And well, we primed him up quite well, and I think that we will get quite a lot of details from him tomorrow.

He has got a copy of the Victoria Report. He said, “Have you read the Victoria Report on Scientology?”

So I said, “No” and he said, “Well I’ve got a report,” he said, “Well I was in the House of Commons last week” and he said, “and it is shocking.”

He really is confident of himself, and that bothers me, so we have primed the job up, and we are going to London Airport to meet him for lunch, and you will have the report on Friday. But rest assured that we will find out as much as we can.

There was a slight indication that he might have been to the press. Yes, he did mention this last night, I forgot. He had go press cuttings, etc. Therefore we think that there might be a press contact, and we will try to establish who it is.

I feel it must be The Mail (Daily Mail) from the way he spoke, but he has very definitely been to the Government. (The House of Commons.)

LRH: Now in that man’s background there are a few bodies under culverts and things, I learned that the hard way.

His sister said he is a very, very — he is an extremist as far as Christianity is concerned, so there may well be — something could easily be out a lot.

LRH: Well, very good. Very good. Now what can I do for you?

This brings us into the general field of pursuing this type of thing. We naturally got together — it would be stupid if we didn’t — and of course we have come from three varied backgrounds — I have an Intelligence Security background, another police, and another with the MET. We have discussed our approach to this type of thing. We are wondering whether we shouldn’t put it on a more or less professionally covert background, because there does seem to be a dedicated opposition against you in many ways.

We are rather inclined to believe that the main hostility comes from the one particular paper, The Daily Mail Newspaper. We havn’t penetrated it enough, but as you will see from what we have written, there have been two penetrations, and I favour the direct intro using cover, if it is possible. Of course it is always fraught with difficulty, and very simple things could blow us.

LRH: Well, I took that up and I will try to give you as much cover as possible.

In this particular line of course, we wanted to make it quite clear that we were operating under a cover, and we would like to know if that meets with your approval.

LRH: Yes.

We are not operating as from Scientology, as that would blow us right away, because we are up against it right away.

LRH: You would be.

Well actually, we wondered originally when the application was in The Telegraph for investigators, we’ve discussed obviously we are going to get vast amounts of wrong types applying for a job, which you did, Filson and Brady for instance. Now the thing is:

About making loud investigations, is it not better to do the investigation on the quiet and then when somebody comes up with something, shoot him back down with the information we have got about them, rather than do the investigation loud after the event. Let them jog along nice and quiet while the investigation is in progress, and then when we’ve got sufficient, then give them a broadside.

Perfectly fine.

We found too, that to gather information about the local sie of things rather than at the top. We rather favour starting a little bit below the top, for example these Harmsworths and Northcliffe are running this NEWSIGHT thing, the man who is putting on the pressure is the head of the editorial feature department. He is the one fellow we have to uncover for example, Whitehead, you see?

You can’t go wrong there.

We rather feel that latitude given to the editorial men, as long as it conforms with the general policy of the paper, and God knows what we could uncover about Whitehead. He might be a complete alcoholic, etc., etc. We rather favour, although we have had projects given us of Carr, King, and Cudlipp, of the three we rather fancy Cudlipp more, we rather feel that starting a little bit below the top level would probably produce more results.

LRH: Well, I should think that your operation and the policy governing your operation should be arranged amongst yourselves. All I am asking is a result.

That is what we thought. Now that is what we want to do now. We cottoned on very quickly to your note, and that your interest in these matters are taboo, not to be divulged in any way. We would like to work beneath the surface a little bit, under cover if you like.

LRH: I heartily agree with you. Why don’t you organize the Bide-a-wee Detective Agency or Enquiry Agency?

Just what we wanted.

LRH:Why don’t you organize this and get this as a very, very separate organization.

Ideal.

Before you came today, [?], I mentioned to Nancy that apart from becoming completely divorced from this place we are becoming too stereotyped in our activities. We come in here on Wednesday and put our reports in and our expenses. We come in here on Friday and put further reports in and we pick up our pay and expenses as usual. We may be on the premises two hours sometimes, and we may be, as we were last Friday, for about fourteen hours. Now the point is is, that whilst we are so stereotyped, should there be anyone keeping observation on this place, it is the easiest thing to pick us out coming in regularly on a Wednesday or a Friday.

LRH: Too predictable.

Again, should there be anyone in this place — and nobody knows this for certain, and we have a hint that there is an informant inside Saint Hill — Filson hinted this to both Ron and myself when we went down to interview him a few weeks ago. When he tried to get in touch with us and we went down, and we came and reported fully to Monica all about this interview. And if this is so, and I for one am not prepared to overlook that this is true, then it is the easiest thing for any informer to say, “You can see them come here every Wednesday and Friday.” And as long as this continues, Mr. Hubbard, then we are in jeopardy. Whilst we are in jeopardy, you are in jeopardy.

It is more serious than that. It is a matter of safety as well as a matter of security, and if any type of arrangement that you can make in that way, go ahead and do so. I don’t know what it takes to license an agency.

Nothing. No license required.

I believe that some of our SPs, and undoubtedly this is one of the best ones we have had yet — (Chorus: “I agree”). And  although Pat says he has only been interested in Scientology for the last month, that phone call last night indicated to me that he had been interested in Scientology for many more months, and he didn’t even know his sister was in the organization until a month ago.

His own mother is in Australia (I.e., Mrs. Webster). She is residing with the sister of Pat Webster. She is residing in Perth. Now if you got anyone who is disgruntled with any job or anything he is doing, like he is an SP from Scientology–

Say “Joe Bloggs” from London HASI, he goes off to his house in London and there is obviously some news interest in Scientology all the time, so the odd reporter goes around to “Joe Bloggs” and says, “Can you give me a statement?” “No.” “No…” “And so and so…” “But see old Jim Smith…”

And sooner or later he (the reporter) is getting a little bit of information from each one and building up the story and consequently will indicate to us that there is one big SP behind it. The SP, I think, is about the level of an editor, rather than Cudlipp, or King. I don’t think King is interested as long as his money is coming in to be quite blunt about it. I don’t think he would be interested in anything, as long as his finances are okay.

As long as the papers keep selling, he doesn’t care.

Providing the paper doesn’t print anything that would step on the toes of his associates in business, and I believe–

Here’s something astonishing with regard to men with money. I finally got a rundown on no less a person than Harry Oppenheimer6 I was looking for who was kicking over the traces down in South Africa because they are starting investigations concerning the organization for blasphemy.

So I took a small amount of my time I spent in Rhodesia to as a few questions about this, and you know this fellow Oppenheimer controls The Rhodesian Herald in Salisbury, controls the Argus Press, controls these various press activities down there. And what is more important is that he himself is so far on the outs with the Nationalist Party of South Africa that he has started at one time a party called The Progressive Party, which was able to elect exactly one MP, that was as far as it got. And he has been violently against “white supremacy.” Whether that is good, bad, or indifferent is besides the point. This man has been making his money out of the country and yet he is violently opposed to this. And his copper mines up in Zambia are being clobbered by the Zambian government, and yet this fellow is going right straight along just as pretty as you please, with people who are cutting his throat from ear to ear. And yet he is busy cutting the throat of the people who are trying to give him the law and order in which to operate in South Africa.

Now this is a very, very interesting picture. I will just give you my “think” on it, not an authoritative think, but I concede usually that the fellow has done something and when he does something this irrational, he is told to do it from somewhere. And when I see key figures all over the world make the same utterance simultaneously, I always get rather alert, and say, “Well, who’d have what on where?”

Now a theory is only as good as it works out, and if that theory doesn’t work out, well it doesn’t work out. But it is utterly mad to suppose that Harry Oppenheimer of all people would be favouring and buttering up the Zambian government which is destroying  Anglo-American interests, and he is in actual fact fighting the existence of the Rhodesian government, which gives him carte blanche to mine anything in the country. And if there is a take-over in Rhodesia he will lose that carte blanche right away.Why is this man going contrary to his own interests? That is the only question. It isn’t that one favours one side over the other.

Because I was down there urging ‘one man one vote’ as far as that was concerned, which did me no good whatsoever. But just the same these people such as Oppenheimer have no reason on God’s green earth to act the way they do. Their conduct is irrational. Now I wondered if there wasn’t a contact between King and Oppenheimer, because King is also on the Board of Directors of the Bank of England, isn’t he?

Yes (chorus)

This man King is a great seeker after power internationally. He has a lust for power, there is no doubt about that. You see it written through the whole of his history. His big disappointment must be his not having a knighthood.

I would bring up his papers apart from The People, just a scandal sheet on Sundays anyway, his newspaper group hasn’t printed a thing against Scientology.

This is true.

LRH: But he is a director with Carr of the NPA, which has banned our advertisement, and come in through the back door, so to say. It could tie in.

When I did an extrapolation of this, if it were a conspiracy, it led to somebody who had interest in mental healing, the press and high finance. Because they were able uniformly to influence income tax and treasury departments, and influenced the Ministry of Health, and influenced the policy papers. And it was so uniform and the patter was so uniform — the attack is a pattern, same pattern every time — that I wondered who this bloke, or blokes, or group could possibly be. So anyway, that is the project on which you are working. Is there anything else I can do…

We would like to know how far you would like to go as far as things like —

[End of Tape Side 2]

Notes

  1. Document studied on Confidential GO Intelligence Course. PDF format. Text formatted for ease of reading. Other minor edits were also made in the transcript. ↩
  2. See  FOIA response letters re: Hubbard’s US Navy service record. Hubbard’s OMPF here. ↩
  3. Sara Northrup, whom Hubbard married bigamously. ↩
  4. John Whiteside Parsons (October 2, 1914 – June 17, 1952) ↩
  5. The Synopsis in Dianetics: Modern Science of Mental Health begins: “The creation of dianetics is a milestone for Man comparable to his discovery of fire and superior to his inventions of the wheel and arch.” (Synopsis, pp. ix-xx. Paperback edition first published October 1968. Twentieth-fifth printing, June 1981.) Los Angeles: Bridge Publications, Inc. ↩
  6. Wikipedia: Harry Frederick Oppenheimer. ↩